You guys are on a roll lately. We have had a ton of great discussion on these Be Heard posts.
We recently discussed concealed carry handguns and several people mentioned that they carry GLOCK handguns. That made me wonder if the very public problems with the Generation 4 GLOCKs shaken your trust in GLOCK at all.
So now is your chance to Be Heard. Given their recent issues, do you still trust GLOCK to deliver a reliable handgun?
Absolutely! All mine are GEN3 🙂
In all seriousness, I prefer the M&P’s in every way but the trigger… and I know how to fix that.
I carry a M&P Shield (unmodified) or a highly modified Glock 19, but only because S&W won’t made a mid-sized gun.
For a new buyer I would suggest the following guns based on size…
Pocket Gun – Ruger LCP
Single Stack Sub – M&P Shield
Double Stack Sub – M&P9c
Mid-size (Best All Around) – Glock 19
Full Size – M&P9
Competition – M&P Pro
I have a Gen 4 G22 and love it. No issues!
Opps, I meant to type I have a Gen 4 G27.
yeah i carry a gen3 17 all day every day and i know it goes bang when i pull the trigger
I still trust my Glocks.
Glock is at least as good as any of the other major pistol manufacturers on the market. In addition Glock has also resolved the issues they were having. With all that said, a Glock is not infallible… so like any other pistol verifying performance with 500-2000 rounds before relying on it is a good idea.
Gen 4 G19… no issues whatsoever.
My gen 2 G22 has so many rounds through it, I lost count. It’s been a duty gun, a EDC gun, an IPSC/USPSA/IDPA gun and my go-to gun for training and classes.
The only time it failed was my fault. However, now, I have semi-retired that gun. It’s tired, beat-up and deserves to be a safe-queen.
But I doubt I’ll own a gen 4.
Now, I have a Springfield XD40 that I love. In fact, I just bought an XDm in 9mm. I’m really diggin’ the XD’s. I have from the very first time I handled one.
Maybe Glock’s ego got a little too big? Dunno. But it’s hard to find much fault in the M&P’s and XD’s.
I bought the Gen 4 19 when it first came out. I was disappointed at the FTEs with cheap ammo. I have since replaced the ejector and recoil spring assembly with the newer versions. I left the slide locked open for a few days and I no longer have any FTE issues. I would recommend loosening the recoil spring (Like I did) even with the newer versions. That said, I never worried about the gun malfunctioning with the +p ammo I use as my carry choice. I am interested in converting a Gen 3 19 into a 26L. The M&P Shield is a good option. That’s my 2 cents…
I carry a G17, G19 and a G26 daily, all Gen 4, all of them issue free. I may have been lucky, but to date I have, give or take about 8K rounds through the 17 and 19 and 4K through the 26 since the beginning of the year, multiple classes etc… no failures.
I don’t trust my Gen3 Glock 19 simply because it says “Glock” on the slide – I trust it because it has been proven reliable after several thousand rounds of practice FMJ, 200 rounds of JHP carry ammo, and multiple training classes and IDPA matches.
A prospective Glock buyer should research the brand online, test-fire the model(s) they are interested in(either as a range-rental gun, or simply asking a fellow shooter), and then test and train with the pistol they finally purchase before carrying it in harm’s way…
I have put at least 1000-1500 rounds through my Gen 3 Glock 19 and 99% of those were lead-cast. I have yet to experience any issues whatsoever with it and feel extremely comfortable carrying it to protect me and my family.
I do run a bore snake through it after shooting it at the range before pulling out my self-defense mag. I know it’s not a good idea to shoot jacketed rounds after shooting lead so I make sure the barrel is clean before carrying. I also always give it a good cleaning after every range trip.
My Glocks are all Gen 3’s with the exception of one Gen 2. The only internal modification that I make is that all of my Glocks have a Glock factory “-” connector installed. All but one of my Glocks have tritium sights installed. Only my Glock 19 gen3 has given my any problems. That was when it was new and would not feed Monarch 115gr ammunition reliably. A couple hundred rounds of 124gr ammunition fixed that problem. My Glocks perform reliably with any ammunition. The reason that I don’t buy gen 4’s is that I have complete sets of spare parts for all of my gen 3’s.
All my Glocks are Gen 3’s and I trust them completely. I am constantly dicking with something on one of them; 25 cent trigger job, Glockworx triggers, heavier recoil springs, light connectors and NY1 trigger springs, etc…
Without fail, they have all continued to be 100% reliable. Granted, I only shoot a few thousand rounds per year over 4 guns; but still, I think I shoot enough that I would experience issues if there were any to have. I mostly shoot cheap-ass 115 grain silver bear through my Glocks but I also send a box of HST through my 19 every 4 or 5 months.
I can’t comment on the Gen 4’s, I know there were some documented issues early on with the recoil spring assembly. But I do have the utmost faith in Glock pistols. I’m not saying they are the end-all be-all, but as far as this white boy is concerned they are pretty damn close.
I still trust glock. I’m not a huge fan of the backstrap, but I still have full faith in their products. I own several glocks, and my every day carry is and will always be my glock 26.
Absolutely. But only after each gun proves itself individually through a significant amount of rounds. (as most of the gentlemen above have explained as well). I think that some make the mistake of assuming that just because it is “x” brand that particular one will have no issues. It is man-made, even a new in the box GEN 2 from years ago should be wrung out prior to declaring it reliable enough to carry. Are the odds higher of certain brands running out of the box? Absolutely. Glock Gen 3’s are definitely among those that meet the initial screening criteria.
I have a (modified) Gen. 3 G19 and I would (and do) bet my life on it.
I would not buy a Gen. 4 Glock. In part because I somewhat question the reliability of the Gen. 4, but also because S&W makes the M&P9.
My EDC carry gun is a (modified) M&P9 and I prefer it over the Glock. The factory trigger reset on the M&P9 is lacking but the Apex RAM fixes that quite nicely (unless you’ve got a VTAC version).
That said, if I could only own ONE handgun it would be a Gen. 3 Glock 19.
Absolutely not. If it was any other manufacturer putting out this many problem pistols, they would be put in the same class as Keltec, but because they say “GLOCK” on the side people choose ignore the problems.
This is coming from a hardcore ex-GLOCK guy. GLOCK skates by on their 30 year reputation of supreme reliability, while putting out malfunctioning guns. That makes me sick, while at the same time breaking my heart. GLOCK will get none of my money.
Two Gen4 Glock 19s here.
First is a very early production blue label, from Summer 2010. At around 1k rounds the RSA was swapped out for the factory 0-3-4 upgrade. The weapon now has 3k rounds – no FTEs, FTFs or erratic ejection.
Second G19 Gen 4 was purchased in late July, also blue label, test fired at the factory July 4th. This Glock has the updated “30274” ejector and 0-3-4 RSA. So far at 1k rounds it runs like a sewing machine. No weak ejection or brass to the face.
My take is that the Gen4 was beefed up internally to correct the issues PDs and SOs were having when shooting with weapon mounted lights. Glock assumed the 9mm would still run with these changes, but it created a new set of issues with 9mm. It has taken some time but I feel that Glock has corrected the 9mm problems by tweeking the RSA and ejector. I continue to trust new Glock handguns on and off-duty.
I have no problems with Glocks, I just stick to Gen 3. I carry an early Gen 3 G23 and have no doubts as to it’s reliability.
I have carried a Glock 31 Gen 4 for 6 months and fired 3000 rounds through, zero issues.
I have been in law enforcement for 18+ years. Been on a tactical team for 16 of those years, been a firarms instructor for 7 years. I have carried Glocks the entire time, a gen two model 21; a gen three model 21, now a gen three model 22 as a patrol and tac team gun. (our office wanted to consolodate weapons so we all went to .40’s) I am assigned to a narcotics unit and carry my personal gen four model 27 most of the time. I have shot thousands of rounds through each of these including my 27. The only issues I have seen was with the gen two model 21 I broke the lip of an extractor, but did not know it till an armors inspection, the gun was still working. The only modifications I have made are Vickors slide lock levers and I have stipled my grips. The guns have all worked for me without issue. I am also one of the armors for our department and I do change the recoil springs annually for the tac team and every two years on the rest of the department’s model 22s and model 23s.
My wife shoots a gen four model 19, she has a few thousand rounds through hers as well and we have not had an issue. My oldest son shoots a gen three model 17 and my youngest son shoots a gen 3 model 19. Neither of them have had any issues and they shoot a lot as well. I also use a model 17 for any classes I teach outside of law enforcement and it works flawlessly. My full size .40 and 9mm guns always have a Surefire 300 mounted on them when in use. I should also add that each of my guns have all been run in rain and snow, high humidity and dust with no issues.
I will however admit that I like shooting the Smith and Wesson M&P in .40 and 9mm. They seem to be good handling weapons but I have not spent the time with them that I have the Glocks. I will continue to trust my family and my life to a Glock, I just wish my oldest son could have his with him in Afghanistan. Dad would sleep better.
Our sheriffs office did have an issue with a run of the gen three model 22s that had the slide rails break. We had three guns do that and Glock replaced every model 22 frame we had. I should have included this in the commient above. i didn’t think about it till I hit the post button.
I do. I have a, whatchamacallem, Gen 3.5? The half-moon cocking serrations and the RTF2. Love it, thousands of rounds down the pipe, no malfs. I still do like a manual safety though. I carry it condition 1, but only in a good holster and only if I’m going somewhere that I might need that. I understand the Glock’s safeties intimately. But I’ve seen some people with REALLY bad luck before too.
I trust my newer Glocks a lot less than my older ones. I have a new 19 Gen 3 that slings brass to the face FTEs and stovepipes.
Just have to stick to carrying my older Gen 3
Do I have faith in my Glock? Absolutely. Gen 4 17. No issues ever.
Been a Glock user since 96′.
I carry a Gen 4 G21 for duty carry. Love it. No issues.
Abso-f’n-lutely. Gen 3- 22,23 and 27. Don’t knock it until you try it. The 27 is with me 24/7, I pull the trigger, it goes bang and the holes miraculously appear where I want them. All 11 of them.
I’m not Glock’s biggest fan, but they have been very upfront that there is a problem; and they will absolutely fix any issues free. Now, that still leaves the question how such serious issues got past the quality control process.
I’d submit that since Glock uses workers that they hire for $10 an hour from local labor pools, that part of the problem may lie there. I’m local to Glock HQ and have several friends who work there, and these seems to be a problem that is known, but is seeing little being done about it.
I’ll stick to my M&P, and Gen 3 Glock for now. Hopefully Glock will revert to solid Quality Control practices.
I carry a GEN 3 G23 and a GEN 4 29 with absolutely no problems. I also have a GEN 4 21 strictly for HD and I can report that it is my favorite of the three.